10,000 Swamp Leaders

Clif and CK McKenzie come to the Swamp and talk about their generational leadership transition of Watson Furniture. They discuss their different approaches to the work, how they make decisions and how they each lead. Clif has led Watson for a great many years. He didn’t start out loving office furniture. That quickly changed. He sets the high standard for the design and functionality of the Watson products. CK brings his US Naval Academy education and US Marine Corps training flying combat helicopters. They approach leading from different core influences and yet they are on the same page about how they lead people. At the core is their belief that “having the right people matters, it matters, it matters.” In our conversation, they share how they have effectively led the Watson team through a difficult post Covid period to brighter days.   Links Watson Furniture [https://www.watsonfurniture.com/] Thanks for listening. Send me your feedback [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1692370/open_sms] I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am. * Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro * Great music by Jazz Night * Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com [http://www.weeditpodcasts.com] Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/]

Wendy Tyner visits the Swamp to share her wisdom gained from leading philanthropic organizations and building communities. She begins our conversation sharing what she learned teaching children with learning disabilities. We then discuss how she guided three not-for-profit organizations to become significant community assets that support bluegrass music, farms and public lands. She often guided all these projects at the same time. Wendy offers up a portfolio of lessons learned and “grandmotherly (Baba)” advice for all of us. Thanks Wendy. Wendy’s Links Wintergrass [http://www.wintergrass.org/] Podcast- One Hour to Doors- Podcasts about the business and souls of leaders in the festival and events industry- November 25,2023 [https://podcast.onehourtodoors.com/2226985/episodes/14025425-wintergrass-festival-with-wendy-tyner] Friends of the Farms [https://www.friendsofthefarms.org/] Sierra Ferrell Official Website [https://www.sierraferrellmusic.com/] Home - Trust for Public Land [https://www.tpl.org/] OMC Foundation | Clallam County | Olympic Medical Center Foundation [https://www.omhf.org/]  Mountains to Sound [https://mtsgreenway.org/] Thanks for listening. Send me your feedback [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1692370/open_sms] I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am. * Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro * Great music by Jazz Night * Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com [http://www.weeditpodcasts.com] Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/]

Aidan McQuade joins me in the Swamp to discuss his book, Ethical Leadership: Moral Decision-Making Under Pressure and his model “The Cruciform of Agency.” Aidan was born in Northern Ireland and grew up during the period known as “the troubles.” He is wiser for that experience. He has dedicated his life to humanitarian work in some of the most difficult conditions over the last twenty years. Our conversation explores his experiences leading aid organizations and the hard decisions that need to be made that affect human life.  We explore his model and how individuals can use it to locate a space of agency in the most difficult of situations. Aidan is also the author of two fiction books as well as a wonderful blog. Enjoy the insights from a man who has impacted the world for the better.  Aidan Links Aidan McQuade [https://aidanjmcquade.com/] Aidan’s book: Ethical Leadership [https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110745849/html] Moral Courage in Leadership [https://aidanjmcquade.com/2014/05/01/moral-courage-in-leadership/] Leadership in the “gray-zone” [https://aidanjmcquade.com/2024/12/11/leadership-in-the-grey-zone1/] Service to the State [https://www.amazon.com/Some-Service-State-Aidan-McQuade/dp/1035817934/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17J12A86RCDUQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5I2960qNnnGSKSoVfFLOSAi7ygSrt9GOtZF-yHA6D42i0YyWEzHwyKzNJdPTs8O5ERuxaNbXpVlsQjiUWUp5rw.UFX_7bbU2cNxgCcooaxu4IREUbAXsl02rm6gdp_bYLA&dib_tag=se&keywords=aidan+mcquade&qid=1737038816&sprefix=aidan+mcquade%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1] The Undiscovered Country [https://www.amazon.com/Undiscovered-Country-Aidan-McQuade-ebook/dp/B07Y3D246N?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5I2960qNnnGSKSoVfFLOSAi7ygSrt9GOtZF-yHA6D42i0YyWEzHwyKzNJdPTs8O5ERuxaNbXpVlsQjiUWUp5rw.UFX_7bbU2cNxgCcooaxu4IREUbAXsl02rm6gdp_bYLA&dib_tag=se] Thanks for listening. Send me your feedback [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1692370/open_sms] I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am. * Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro * Great music by Jazz Night * Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com [http://www.weeditpodcasts.com] Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/]

Benjamin Taylor makes his third appearance in the Swamp and he brings some useful distinctions with him. We discuss the value and importance of understanding the positive and negative dynamics that differentiation and integration have on group dynamics and productivity. But it is not all that simple. There are at least four dynamics at play at any time in your work groups. Benjamin maps these group dynamics and shares moves that you can make to lead, manage and facilitate more effective group-work outcomes. Benjamin’s Links Benjamin Taylor LinkedIN post [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:7256950648267591680/] Benjamin Taylor’s Medium Page [https://antlerboy.medium.com/friends-reported-hed-been-talking-about-differentiation-and-integration-again-2bd7d285f9ba] https://antlerboy.com/ [https://antlerboy.com/]  Barry Oshry: Power and Systems [https://powerandsystems.com/] Sandra Janoff: Future Search [https://futuresearch.net/] Safford Beer [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stafford_Beer] Benjamin 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 21 [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/benjamin-taylor-the-abundance-of-systems/] Benjamin Taylor 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 39 [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/benjamin-taylor-there-are-problems-with-adaptive-leadership-and-consulting/] Thanks for listening. Send me your feedback [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1692370/open_sms] I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am. * Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro * Great music by Jazz Night * Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com [http://www.weeditpodcasts.com] Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/]

Joanne Murphy and Keith Grint come to the swamp to discuss their views on leadership and the effort required to do it well. Joanne and Keith are deeply informed on this topic of leading. Their academic background includes teaching, research and writing. We discuss the differences between command, management and leadership. All three approaches matter and we explore the value of each role. The state of the world calls for more people with the stamina to lead. In this episode, stamina will be supported with craft. Links Joanne’s Links Joanne’s Book: Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace’  [https://www.amazon.co.uk/-/e/B00E973C50] University of Birmingham [https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/search?term=joanne%20murphy]  Joanne’s Website [https://joannemurphy.org/] Public Service Podcast [https://feed.podbean.com/publicservicepodcasting/feed.xml] The Leadership Challenge of Northern Ireland [https://www.pivotalppf.org/our-work/publications] Twitter - @changeresearch 10000 SwampLeaders Joanne Murphy Podcast (Episode [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/joanne-murphy-leading-is-about-creating-change/]) Keith’s Links Bio [https://www.advance-he.ac.uk/profile/keith-grint] LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-grint-632496221/] keith.grint@wbs.ac.uk New Blog: ILA Blog article: Care-Full Leadership: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/care-full-leadership/ [https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/care-full-leadership/]  New Articles: “Closing ranks: Leadership and the mundanization of the extraordinary in military history” Leadership https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241238811 [https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241238811]  WhatsApp to Sunak’ Leadership (2024) https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241240598 [https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241240598]    New Books: A Cartography of Resistance: Leadership, Management & Command  https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-cartography-of-resistance-9780198921745?lang=en&cc=gb [https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-cartography-of-resistance-9780198921745?lang=en&cc=gb]   Mutiny & Leadership https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=grint+mutiny&cc=gb&lang=en [https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=grint+mutiny&cc=gb&lang=en]  Leadership: Limits and Possibilities 2nd ed. (with Owain Smolovic Jones) https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/leadership-9781350333130/ [https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/leadership-9781350333130/]  Thanks for listening. Send me your feedback [https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1692370/open_sms] I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am. * Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro * Great music by Jazz Night * Awesome episode production by the great team of We Edit Podcasts all the way up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Check them out at www.weeditpodcasts.com [http://www.weeditpodcasts.com] Thanks For Listening and Jumping into the Swamp [https://www.10000swampleaders.com/]