How to Lead with Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow

THIS EPISODE IS PROUDLY SPONSORED BY THE UNSTUCK GROUP [https://theunstuckgroup.com/] __________ Clay and Adam recently partnered with their friends at RightNow Media @ Work [https://www.rightnowmedia.org/atwork] to host a webinar on coaching Millennials and Gen Z. This episode is the first part of that webinar. __________ People problems are uniquely challenging on a ministry team. Leading your staff through them is hard.  When you know something is off related to the team, it’s normal to lack confidence for solving that kind of challenge. They didn’t teach you how to do that in seminary. You’ve probably been on the receiving end of a bad restructure at some point yourself.  And, the people you serve alongside in ministry feel like family. The stakes are high. You don’t have to tackle it alone. We understand the nuances of what makes leading a church staff team uniquely challenging. We’ve helped 100s of churches build a staffing strategy and structure that works. Through our Staffing & Structure process, we help teams solve complicated staffing challenges with wisdom and grace. Learn how it works at theunstuckgroup.com/restructure [http://theunstuckgroup.com/restructure]. __________ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after ⁠speaker and leadership coach⁠ [https://www.clayscroggins.com/], known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/How-Lead-When-Youre-Charge/dp/0310531578/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nhI6mjXJCQuBbZqrfn1h1dYWFJIfWBDsETLwTjaacWfI8SYtGPUFXUydcc_8-gbxy9q3f4BDyzqV2FJaZqkDarpB6uhIZG6EbrPZLfybxN97YV_GGbRs5OOCRkHI1_UUruq1thwI4SMDEby4lecwWgRv0Mu3nUi6uXAC505iuXr4V4Xf0Ip-X-HgC1dgskDrFLBQj8jt_3rsEJRypjFjSxzSEmpk6njn2-uP24zz-E3pGJe5Lq3kVlI8UPJD_JrOsRQpZ24PTTJnhL0lqY5jllPVAzEqDLQgQR0G0a0qgp0.om0cchV_5Qt4sNk4Loie3TG8A0KQvn6lCZ2ayCqDIPw&qid=1723813735&sr=8-1]. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his ⁠weekly email⁠ [https://www.clayscroggins.com/newsletter].   About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at ⁠PeopleWorks International⁠ [https://www.peopleworksinternational.com/], where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of ⁠The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/Edge-Stand-Showing-Emerging-Leaders/dp/1544532164/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LNGMHQPYGNLC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Qcc0unFRCOlUz_RAsCAsh_9cJ3JyxgvRZHl92nyKFk.8qh9s3tbWzshRhcf45G5eFkZWpZSfO7QEvzJEtachmU&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+edge+adam+tarnow&qid=1723813630&sprefix=the+edge+adam+tarnow%2Caps%2C121&sr=8-1] and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, ⁠On Leadership⁠ [https://adamtarnow.substack.com/].

The one and only "Jonny from Dallas" joins Clay and Adam to share how he uses resources to develop himself and those around him. __________ Today's episode is proudly sponsored by MIZZEN+MAIN [https://www.mizzenandmain.com/] (https://www.mizzenandmain.com/), the new official menswear provider of the How to Lead podcast! Mizzen + Main [https://www.mizzenandmain.com/] is your go-to spot to procure the most comfortable clothes on the planet! Their classic styles are perfect for any guy who wants to look sharp and feel comfortable from morning to night. How to Lead listeners can enjoy 15% off their first purchase using the code HOWTOLEAD during checking. __________ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after ⁠speaker and leadership coach⁠ [https://www.clayscroggins.com/] known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably ⁠How to Lead When You're Not In Charge⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/How-Lead-When-Youre-Charge/dp/0310531578/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nhI6mjXJCQuBbZqrfn1h1dYWFJIfWBDsETLwTjaacWfI8SYtGPUFXUydcc_8-gbxy9q3f4BDyzqV2FJaZqkDarpB6uhIZG6EbrPZLfybxN97YV_GGbRs5OOCRkHI1_UUruq1thwI4SMDEby4lecwWgRv0Mu3nUi6uXAC505iuXr4V4Xf0Ip-X-HgC1dgskDrFLBQj8jt_3rsEJRypjFjSxzSEmpk6njn2-uP24zz-E3pGJe5Lq3kVlI8UPJD_JrOsRQpZ24PTTJnhL0lqY5jllPVAzEqDLQgQR0G0a0qgp0.om0cchV_5Qt4sNk4Loie3TG8A0KQvn6lCZ2ayCqDIPw&qid=1723813735&sr=8-1]. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his ⁠weekly email⁠ [https://www.clayscroggins.com/newsletter].   About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at ⁠PeopleWorks International⁠ [https://www.peopleworksinternational.com/], where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of ⁠The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/Edge-Stand-Showing-Emerging-Leaders/dp/1544532164/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LNGMHQPYGNLC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Qcc0unFRCOlUz_RAsCAsh_9cJ3JyxgvRZHl92nyKFk.8qh9s3tbWzshRhcf45G5eFkZWpZSfO7QEvzJEtachmU&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+edge+adam+tarnow&qid=1723813630&sprefix=the+edge+adam+tarnow%2Caps%2C121&sr=8-1] and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, ⁠On Leadership⁠ [https://adamtarnow.substack.com/].

Entrepreneur and author Ben Ortlip is back! Adam and Ben continue their conversation based on Ben's new book, Culture is the New Leadership. This is the second part of a two-part conversation. Pick up a copy of this book on ⁠Amazon⁠ [https://www.amazon.com/Culture-New-Leadership-Millennials-Performance/dp/B0D4VYQZYM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2QQYS82LALQ8Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LxAFWjpj0tyievdkv8qeh6x-nPfczXAZs9DVFuoz7n20dE36XReaB0rQkcohCOpXYkr7eYaXY-nyiII406cjH56BwGC11BKCXe7l7J_tMzdpDdF8a9ZnddXKvYfvdbH-WeecI0BkfdgpR1P_O0u6y9ouw8pzFEuHsBJ_lvLc0fRsrKkgbRAZ-oXBj90WbzTOMFkS9X3pfIw1kxgbx-bzxsLAFg3ThVSgfwkhKZxxQGC7KTUcVbkvmwNOHB0syFHqejOpas-q2m79TwOlEVpfB9brdB83nZuVtXosY6ANaqw.0Ef6smLp4MpBCpfXf0SM671SlYbwjOZvXrIdpU3Z9zs&dib_tag=se&keywords=culture+is+the+new+leadership&qid=1722629852&sprefix=culture+is+the+new+led%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1]. Learn more about Ben and the ⁠CultureMRI⁠ [https://theculturemri.com/].

Entrepreneur and author Ben Ortlip joins Adam to discuss his latest book, Culture is the New Leadership. This is the first part of a two-part conversation. Pick up a copy of this book on Amazon [https://www.amazon.com/Culture-New-Leadership-Millennials-Performance/dp/B0D4VYQZYM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2QQYS82LALQ8Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LxAFWjpj0tyievdkv8qeh6x-nPfczXAZs9DVFuoz7n20dE36XReaB0rQkcohCOpXYkr7eYaXY-nyiII406cjH56BwGC11BKCXe7l7J_tMzdpDdF8a9ZnddXKvYfvdbH-WeecI0BkfdgpR1P_O0u6y9ouw8pzFEuHsBJ_lvLc0fRsrKkgbRAZ-oXBj90WbzTOMFkS9X3pfIw1kxgbx-bzxsLAFg3ThVSgfwkhKZxxQGC7KTUcVbkvmwNOHB0syFHqejOpas-q2m79TwOlEVpfB9brdB83nZuVtXosY6ANaqw.0Ef6smLp4MpBCpfXf0SM671SlYbwjOZvXrIdpU3Z9zs&dib_tag=se&keywords=culture+is+the+new+leadership&qid=1722629852&sprefix=culture+is+the+new+led%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1]. Learn more about Ben and the CultureMRI [https://theculturemri.com/].

Sometimes, full engagement isn't enough. Today, Clay and Adam talk about one "fully engaged" employee who is not helpful to your organization. Sign up for the July 31st RightNow Webinar here:  rnow.me/howtoleadwebinar [https://www.rightnowmedia.org/atwork-webinars/how-to-lead-coaching-millennials-and-gen-z?&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=episodead] _________ Based on The Unstuck Group’s most recent data, 53% of churches have gone through a restructure involving multiple staff positions within the last two years.  And it can go so wrong; unwise restructuring can lead to churches… * Retaining people who aren't a good fit for far longer than is healthy—and letting toxicity grow. * Allowing ministry silos to develop and misalignment to grow, undercutting the ministry God has called you to do. * Allowing failures in character, chemistry, competence or culture to go unaddressed. * Letting people continue in key areas of responsibility when the ministry has outgrown their leadership capacity. In their “How to Restructure Wisely” webinar last month, Tony Morgan and Amy Anderson simplified what it takes to restructure with wisdom and grace—and they are sharing the event replay [https://theunstuckgroup.com/howtolead] with us. Nobody gives their life to ministry for the money: It’s more than a job, and your team is more than a staff. You can lead through it with confidence, and your church can come out stronger on the other side. Learn how: theunstuckgroup.com/howtolead [http://theunstuckgroup.com/howtolead]