Subtle Disruptors

Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA] By his own admission, John Chambers [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchambers] likes action. In the times I have chatted with him and seen him speak, his energy and desire to create positive change emanates out of him. And positive change is what he is enabling through his life’s many aspects: start-ups; helping corporates innovate in a way that suits them best (ie not trying to be like a startup); working with people to help them grow; seeking ways to grow awareness and connection with Aboriginal Australians. After getting to know John a bit more, it becomes apparent that behind this desire for action and change is a willingness to listen, reflect, and humbly grow. It was excellent to talk with John and to hear the ways in which he has been challenged and had to change through the ventures and adventures he has untaken. Currently, John is one of the Managing Partners at IE [https://www.ie.com.au/], an organisation that helps other organisations innovate and bring their ideas to market. He also hosts a podcast of his own, The Corporate Innovator [https://www.ie.com.au/podcast], in which he talks with visionary corporate leaders, makers and advisors from around the globe. If you enjoyed listening to John, you may also enjoy our conversation with Amantha Imber [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000371827446] on applying science to the art of innovation, or Gus Hervey [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000374373401] on being intelligently optimistic about the change we can make in the world. Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA]

Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA] Nature can provide inspiration to many of us, but it’s been particularly significant to Naturepreneur, Ian Banyard, who been discovering how reconnecting with the natural world is key to saving both ourselves and our planet. In our first Subtle Disruptor interview outside of Australia, Richard Holmes [https://twitter.com/mrrichholmes] talks to Ian Banyard from the UK about his personal journey into natural mindfulness, and the role nature plays in helping us all feel healthier, happier and more peaceful. As we experience living in an ever-changing, fast-paced, busy world, Ian encourages us to find an opportunity to get outside, pause, breathe and unburden our busy minds through appreciating the natural world around us. He helps us reflect on how trees have grown from seed using the abundance of resources around them, and encourages us, as human beings to reflect on what we have near us that can help us to thrive. Richard and Ian also discuss how more people are taking inspiration from nature to inform how they develop themselves and their organisations as they move towards evolutionary thinking, leaving the mechanical world behind. You can find out more about Ian at www.cotswoldnaturalmindfulness.co.uk [http://www.cotswoldnaturalmindfulness.co.uk] If you do enjoy listening to Ian, you may also enjoy listening to Sieta Beckwith [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000440949037] on falling in love with the earth again, Jordan Osmond [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000406922566] on living the change we want to see in the world, and Masha Gorodilova [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000370050533] on bringing stillness to our talkative urban minds. Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA]

Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA] It was an unexpected act of generosity that enabled the organisation led by this episode’s guest to be in the position it is today. A donation of a property in Melbourne’s Toorak over 50 years ago is now impacting a large number of people, all living with the intention of bringing about positive change in the world. For some of these people, it is their place of work. For others, it is where they live as part of a community. Others drop in from time to time either casually or part of workshops or other regular catchups. It is an organisation that up until recently has described itself as an organism. Through some very careful and courageous change work, this group of people have been able to let go of what they once were to embrace what they could be. The organisation is called Initiatives of Change, Australia [https://au.iofc.org/], and our guest is the Executive Officer Athalia Zwartz. I have had a number of interactions with Athalia where I have experienced her love of people, her desire for depth and honesty, her kindness and conviction. I felt all of these in our conversation together, which I hope you enjoy as well. If you do enjoy listening to Athalia, you may also enjoy listening to Gilbert Rochecouste [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000417951634] on creating long-lasting change within a city, Maria Cameron [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192?i=1000368251859] or suburban communities, orMatt Wicking [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/matt-wicking-cultivating-awareness-ourselves-our-species/id1085438192?i=1000374878203] on cultivating an awareness of ourselves and our context. Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA]

Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA] I reach down and touch the dirt and realise that it has been days, or perhaps weeks since I have made this simple contact. I wonder about this and remember the joy I once experienced as and child of playing in the dirt. Along with the theme of deep listening that has been emerging through recent episodes of this podcast, there is also another theme of remembering something that we intuitively knew as children and this that our ancestors knew intimately. In this episode, I talk with Seita Beckwith [https://ceres.org.au/about/meet-the-team/] about remember what it is to be in love with the earth again, and with the process of bringing spirituality and action together to give birth to something good. If you do enjoy listening to Sieta, you may also enjoy listening to Katerina Gaita [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/katerina-gaita-conversations-that-create-climate-for/id1085438192?i=1000424069876] on conversations the create a climate for change, Candice Smith [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/candice-smith-creating-environments-that-enable-our/id1085438192?i=1000429984283] on deep listening and creating environments for our best thinking or Matt Wicking [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/matt-wicking-cultivating-awareness-ourselves-our-species/id1085438192?i=1000374878203] on cultivating an awareness of ourselves and our context. Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA]

Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA] Something happened to me when I was about 8 years old – I somehow developed a belief that I was not creative, that I could not draw. I stopped drawing from that point on and dreaded going to art class each week. Flash forward 30 years I am sitting down at a table with my son at his kindergarten. In front of us is a sheet of paper and some pencils. He asks me to draw him something. I freeze. That same belief is still there: “My son is asking me to draw…but I can’t draw!”. But I can see the anticipation in his eyes and decide to give it my best shot. I was amazed at what actually flowed out of my body and through my pencil. Perhaps I was wrong about my ability to draw, but what seemed to be even more important was how I felt because of the drawing I was doing. It was liberating and awakening. And of course, my son loved every line. My guest for this week is Melanie Knight. She curates experience like the one I had with my son in his kindergarten, where adults can tap back into a creativity and expression that may have been dormant since their childhood years. Dr Sketchy’s [http://www.hellomelanieknight.com/drsketchys] is an experience specifically focus on drawing, and Dead Letter Club [http://www.hellomelanieknight.com/dead-letter-club-1] is about remembering what it was like to make up a story and a character through the medium of hand-writing letters. I enjoyed the depth of discussion with Melanie in this conversation. I love her ability to show up just as she is, to bring what she sees as valuable and important into the world. If you do enjoy listening to Melanie, you may also enjoy listening to Kate Challis [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/kate-challis-relationship-between-design-wellbeing/id1085438192?i=1000375418603&mt=2] on the connection between design and wellbeing, Mykel Dixon [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/mykel-dixon-awakening-the-artisan-within-sd22/id1085438192?i=1000372206495&mt=2] on bringing the artist in all of us back into the workplace, or Luke Hockley [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/luke-hockley-drawing-deeply-to-enable-self-love-belonging/id1085438192?i=1000425412881&mt=2] on creating settings where we can safely explore our expression. Listen through iTunes [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/iTunes-Square-Button.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/subtle-disruptors/id1085438192]Listen through Soundclould [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Soundcloud-Square-Button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://soundcloud.com/subtledisruptors]Listen through Stitcher [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/stitcher-button-v2.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/subtle-disruptors]Listen through Spotify [https://i0.wp.com/subtledisruptors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Spotify-Square-Button-v3.png?resize=91%2C91] [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Xs5jFG7ZRqMEmbTeuINDk?si=9_ecLGyfRzWOFESkOveVCA]